I hope you enjoy watching! Really had a great time filming this car and trying it out; after you've watch the video, if you're curious to learn more about the engine powering this car, I have a video breaking down all of the tiny details about the engineering of this engine. Here's the link: nolocal.info/have/video/r5FrlbiK36iAs4A And a huge thanks to those who watch the video all the way through, that's what leads to a video's success! Hope y'all are having a wonderful day!

Milkman69ner

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Moron fanboy, it’s NOT A supra

God of destruction diecast

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@Max Nix the only difference with that is that those are two Japanese companies and Subarus are okay they pretty fast

God of destruction diecast

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Time will tell

videokingrsyd

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@Balazs Pinter they have lexus lc 500

videokingrsyd

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@Balazs Pinter just buy lexus lc 500

Its a rly cool car but I think its hp/L its awful considering its twinscroll turbo-charged

Would love to have a review of the 2021 4-cyl Supra. Thank you!!

I have owned 2 Toyota Supras when they still made there own straight six. They were both fun and dependable. Sad about the change to the drive train, I will not buy one. For the money the new mid-engine Corvette looks more appealing.

How bout that buffeting thoooo

Totally worth the buy if you want a nicer 86 or a slower Z4.. but not if you were expecting the older brother to the MK4 Supra.

Something I love about my s60 is I can set the steering tightness from low-medium-high .

2jz is the only true supra

I want a manual so I can go slower LOL

They need to share this chassis with Mazda to get a new RX-7 and to Honda for a new Del Sol, S2000, & Prelude.

wheres the horrible bump steer on the rear everyones talking about

I highly disagree it's worth all the penny. I'm a huge fan but it's $109,000 here in Australia, to you it's $50,000 US or CAD, so I'm not buying this until it goes down to $50,000 AUD, it's not even justifiable of $70,000 AUD. Sadly, people with $100,000 here in Australia would not consider buying this. You would see them walk into Porsche, Lexus, Audi, Range Rover and BMW.

An automatic transmission in a sports car is made for the lazy person...

It has FLAWS alright, its called a BMW engine and chassis with a Supra badge on it. If you call this a Supra, you are a sheep. As an MKIV owner myself, this 2020 will NEVER be a Supra.

1:02 I'd hate to see a leak spring from that Japarat nest.

It's not a Toyota it is a BMW.

I drive manual all except one of my friends drive autos very few people buy manual anymore including most of the reviewers who say make a manual and they are not buying one so why wish there was a manual. And yes my next car will be a auto (UGH)?

Toyota should have rang Yamaha, made a 6cyl 2.7ltr 2zz-Ge, supercharged it in conjunction with lotus, making a minimum of 360hp and bolted it into a modified 86/BRZ chassis

Partnered with bmw? You mean bmw provided the car, Toyota provided the badges

Well NSX was originally developed by Nissan and was Awd

They should’ve just refreshed the 2jz engine and put it in

I'm happy to see the Supra back at the very least, but yeah, I agree with your main complaints. Why make the car merely look like it has air vents, for example? I can expect some of these new Supra owners modifying the car's body in order to make actual vents on it.

Much better to buy a real BMW Z4, intead of rebadged Z4 by Toyota..

“Why did you put a bmw engine in the new supra?” What Toyota really meant: because the engineers we have now only know how to make eco-friendly Prius engines and we don’t actually want to spend the money to craft and develop a 3JZ

Debating between this and the base Cayman. Thoughts?

Those pedals look so bmw

Its way to expensive and not worth it.

I’ve been watching videos on this car. I’d buy it but.. manual...

Yea I’ll have 574 speed manual please

When the Nissan GTR came out I don't remember hearing people complaining about not having a manual transmission. So why do I hear so many complaining about the lack of a stick shift for the new Supra?

fakery HP curve flattens and the torque curve dips according to BMW/Toyota on purpose - extrapolate - thing makes 400HP easy.......

A man has got to know his limitations. I have a '17 C300... 241 HP 2.0 turbo... corners like it is on rails. Punchy enough for me, but what I really love is the incredible balance and handling.

Since when did 'the internet' become an authority on anything? Most of these morons cannot afford the car anyway. That's why they have nothing to do but complain on the internet. Toyota did not have to make the car, but they made it, they made it true to its heritage, and reviewers say its a brilliant sports car. What is there to hate about it...that it has a BMW engine? GTFO internet.

No stick shift? Talk about out of touch.

Sees FT-1 *preorders* Supra arrives *tf is this?*

UGLY toyota JUNK

I have only just discovered your channel, But man am I glad I have ! Thank u for what u do , and i have subscribed and will like everything. Just keep doing it. Thanx again

4:40 so powerful it can travel forward with the wheels spinning in reverse

Zee efff NOT Zed Eff

Just get a C7 vette it'll be cheaper and look WAY better

2020 Zupra fan boys: The vents are functional. Reality: the vents are fake. 2020 Zupra fan boys: The car is tuned by Toyota. Reality: totally built by and tuned by BMW. AND FINALLY 2020 Zupra fan boys: The car is built by a third party manufacturer. Reality: BMW recalls them LOL LOL LOL

S55** in the M3 not S58

Him: Toyota is not doing it for the profit. Me: Laughs in HUGE dealer markups.

100% same! if it had a manual transmission and a firm steering column it sound be my next car asap. Also Toyota does that low visibility and the fake vent thing... wish they wouldn't also, but I'm use to it now as a current Toyota driver. I do say that BMW makes my favorite engines and drivetrains, definitely the most fun cars I've driven so this is something I'm actually stoked on.

All these vents are functional, sportier trim will have them open. Plus if you want to do it yourself YOU DEFINITELY CAN!!! THIS INFO COMES FROM THE SUPRAS HEAD ENGINEER, SO SHOULD BE FOR REAL!!! CLOSED VENTS = BETTER MPG!!!

If I jumped out of my car into this.....I'd think I'd won the lottery !!!! This has more power than most will ever need.... it looks awsome and the sound? O well... I'll let you rich twats argue over the nitty shite

This is literally a Toyota Z4 lol

mrjjthor Thor

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@burningknuckle26 how can it be more reliable than a z4 when it's basically a z4? It's like saying the Toyota 86 is more reliable than the BRZ. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

burningknuckle26

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They took the z4 and made it into the supra. Ita faster more reliable and handles better than any z4. Toyota engineers did there best with what they had.

If it came with a stick shift it would be great but it's still a good car never the less. Is it the legendary mk4 supra? no. But it's still a good car

How do you feel about the supra's bang for your buck now, after the reveal of the mid engine corvette?

shut up!!!

This is not Supra.. Its a freekin BMW.. Do you homework..

not anymore, nor ever really. Toyota needs to make their own cars, not just lazily re-panel BMW's work if they want the $60k this thing will cost minimum with dealer markups.

Sounds like someones on Toyota's payroll.

Well, this car was cool for a day. Luckily Engineering Explained will always be fun to watch.

What you left out is. Toyota labeled and marked weak points in the inline 6 and gave BMW tolerance recommendations to improve certain parts.

Might as well get the new C8 Vette NA V8 mid-engine 0-60 < 3 seconds for under $60k

They ruined the front end vs the prototype. But Toyota/Lexus has been mangling front-end design for a decade, so nothing new to see here.

this car is a overpriced saturn buy a real car c8 corvette only real drivers get

sees video title "supra worth every penny" :) next video title "supra isn't as fun as the 86" :\

A whole bhp increase for every half decade we waited. Totally worth it

Big Memer

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and an engine with worse tuning potential too

50k is such a saturated price point. I can get a used 911 if we are talking about driving dynamics or a new mustang/slightly used corvette for 0-60. If I were to buy a Supra is because I wanted a Supra. This new product is simply using the Supra name, and obviously the internet is upset.

if you want a base supra (49,990) rather than a base z4 (49,700) of the same year, the z4 is cheaper, but if your looking for as high end as you can get, than the supra is cheaper at 55,250 compared to the z4 at 63,700

id swap a z4 manual transmission in it tbh

If I were in the market I would be eyeing up the Toyota 86, or The Lexus LC500. After that, I might jump ship from Toyota, and think about a BMW Supra.

It’s nice, but still, it’s a BMW. This should’ve been Toyota through and through as the halo model.

Should have called it something different. Toyota only using the Supra name for sales, they try to sell it by the name. Think it is a great car but not a Supra... This is my feel about this car.

There's no doubts this is will be a great and reliable car. British and Americans have problem only because of the German factor. No supra has ever been solely developed by toyota. The engine of the previous one was developed by Yamaha. They only have a case If they complain because there's no manual shift. Otherwise they give us a break. I dont care about who made the engine. Toyota or bmw as long as its a reliable car.

mrjjthor Thor

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Yamaha only developed the heads but the block is all done by Toyota. Also Yamaha is Japanese so it's still a Japanese car. Only thing German would probably be the getrag transmission.

1) $50,000 car emulates fartcan exhaust. 2) In manual shift mode, down is up. So how long before we see these cars starring in Police Dashcam videos?

Great handling Zupr4

No manual transmission negates all of its benefits. How you gonna make an enthusiast car without the clutch pedal, like wtf it's such a turnoff!

Alexander Addai Boateng

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You are right, i like what i feel when i drive manual cars.

mechwarrior13

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@Alexander Addai Boateng I understand that modern paddle shifts can be even faster than manual but it's the feeling of matching your revs to the clutch pedal that makes the difference. When I play forza 7, I'm perfectly fine with paddle shifters, but when it comes irl driving I prefer a manual much more. That's why I got a new 86 last week haha true story.

Alexander Addai Boateng

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These paddle shifts are great to use i promise you

That 11:1 compression ratio improves response but makes it harder to tune without knock😂

No sir, those vents are not for aesthetics but they are made for after market installations like brake cooling system, engine oil cooling system, transmission cooling system, large size radiator, and air intakes for bi-turbos etc. You can tune this car anyway you want.

mrjjthor Thor

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Don't believe everything Toyota says. Do you know how much work needs to be done to make those vents functional and would probably benefit very little if not any from making them functional.

Alex Kersten and the boys over at Car Throttle put the new Supra on a dyno and the results were quite revealing. Toyota is grossly underestimating the power. 376.6 horsepowers and 410 torques . What is the BMW cranking out. Inquiring minds want to know !

This just in. Supra Dynos at 377 hp and does 12.0 in the quart. Faster than the Z4.

Yes, please complain to Toyota regarding the need for a manual transmission and do not buy any of these Supra so that I can buy one below MSRP. Thanks!

I appreciate the BMW partnership on this. They still make sports cars. Comfortable, efficient, and mature sports cars. However, I wonder how different this Supra would feel if BMW handled the suspension.

All BMW parts, $$$$ out of most peoples price range to keep this car on the road. Already seems like a money pit. Even just for a weekend car. I'll stick with Scotty's advise here.

According to the lead project manager for the supra, the vents are there for tuners to come and take them out if they need extra cooling. What's cool about this car is that they designed it with tuners in mind, since that's what they saw with the other supras. Additionally, there's a lot of other things they designed about the car with that in mind.

until the advance 7 speed digital manual manual comes to market, it is not a supra.

It's true that the 2020 Supra has a powertrain jointly developed with BMW, and I can almost understand how that may upset some. But the 1JZ that evolved into the 2JZ gte wasn't designed by Toyota alone either... It was a Yamaha design, but I cant think of a single person ever complaining about that. The 2020 is just as much of a Toyota as the last MK4 was, in my eyes.

Troy Lunn

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@Hector Estrada Germany has too many laws explicitly criminalizing rebadging cars to allow them to have the type of relationship with Toyota that you (and most others) seem to believe they have.

Troy Lunn

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@Hector Estrada You may want to check your facts there... There are not nearly as many shared components as many seem to think, really just the engine and transmission, both of which had almost all of the tuning done in-house, separately from BMW and ZF. Not to mention the steering rack, gearing ratios, differential, electronics, interior, body, etc. And not even BMW makes all of the components for the Z4... But if you still want to think its just a rebadged Z4 because they share an engine block/head, and have the same transmission supplier as half of the other high-end cars on the road, that is your prerogative.

Hector Estrada

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A Yamaha engine yes. Not the entire car. This is entirely a Z4. Defenitely a difference. You are purchasing a BMW in every sense here, not a toyota.

I dont believe you mentioned the mpg on it..nice video tho. I like your opinion on the car

What's the torque spec on that tranny Toyota said they built that car for upgrades how much can it handle they make different 8 hp tranny, base ZF8 HP can't handle anything over 350 flb . If that's the case why bother?

That's the trim that I'll be getting. I feel meh about the ZF8spd but we'll see. It'll be my first automatic.

Yes it has a flaw as it's a BMW and not a Toyota..

Looks like a nice sporty car but I guess if you want to have fun and row gears in a Toyota you have to get a Corolla hatchback with a 6 speed manual.

"3400 lbs is heavy for a 90's car"....uhhh, the Supra from the 90's weighed MORE than the current one lol

i work at factori in Austria where this car is made...i must say that this car is crazy..sound is perfect..quality is very good.. it will come "facelift" ;) and new angine.. vith more horsepower.. tuning parts is on the way..dont judge two son ;)

Letrollaccount

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Ефрем he was right new 2021 was very upgraded from 2020 version

Ефрем

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Ok, we will judge only one son then

9:48 Yeah, same with my Dacia Sandero.

6:52 Hmm. Disks groved already.

ok lets finish this talk here bmw made this car but it is a great looking with the best performance but the only way I sell my mustang and buy supra, is a manual version that is all they need

A video with the chief engineer explains that the fake air ducts are there for future tuners...(I loled)

Volvo S40 2.4i from 2007 has a steering ratio of 15.3 to 1. Jesus, did not realize that

Disappointed in this iteration, ugly back end, Bland Bonnet when put against the over the top front/rear bar styling, disappointing motor too....... for a 2020 car the specs are woeful for its price/pedigree. All in all would have preferred the Supra successor to be along the lines of something like a Lexus LC500

kobedabest

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Solar CerberuS Please.... No one is paying 100k for a Supra, take a look at the GTR and NSX, over priced that’s why no ones buying it. The A90 Supra is sold out, and only people crying are the one that can’t afford it.

Yes, it has flaws. 3 of them. 1: B 2: M 3: W

rubbish why partner it destroys the taste

Is there an M competition pkg?

The thing about manual transmissions . . . all of the auto-enthusiasts love them and always ask for them but, with the exception of Porsche, the take-rate is always so low that it's a waste of manufacturing resources. Everyone was clamoring for a manual on the F-Type, but it sold in so few numbers that it was cancelled after just one year!

After on road costs the top trim of this car in Australia will crack 100k.... sadly not worth it with the other cars out there.

Cant wait to see how they tune these and customize them with wheels, body kits, spoilers, hoods with vents etc... I think this design is awesome. Also, the steering wheel has to go lol. Someone definitely needs to make a custom steering wheel because that thing is hideous.

the m3 has the s55, M version of the n55, not the b58