Thanks for stopping by everyone! This is the second video of a three-part series I've teamed up with Hyundai on, covering the engineering of the Veloster N! Easy to agree on when I drove the car back in 2018 and loved it. Here are related videos if anyone's interested in more: *Videos That Are Not Sponsored:* Veloster N Review - nolocal.info/have/video/a3SKecyFp6JusYg Nurburgring Lap, Veloster N - nolocal.info/have/video/jGmOmrNuqmWhzXw How Veloster N's Anti-Lag Works - nolocal.info/have/video/mJWBm5GE34WeuW8 How Exhaust Crackles Work - nolocal.info/have/video/a2aNrqet3mVpm5A *Sponsored 3-Part Series:* Part 1 - DCT vs Manual - What's the difference? nolocal.info/have/video/pIOFZ9Kfrp5tqXw Part 2 - This video! Part 3 - Coming December 23, dives into Veloster N DCT features!

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@trAovm rtqaq only for certain model years. My car, for example, an Elantra, is a 2009, worst model year is 2013. Haven't had any problems besides worn out parts.

الميرزا الميرزا

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@Temwanani Nkana F/R tire pressures are based on the amount of vehicle weight over those wheels. i.e. say you have a a vehicle that has 70% of its weight I've the front wheels, with 30% over the rear. If all tires have the same pressure, the front tires will look low compared to the rear. This would drastically increase the amount of tread wear. Solution? Increase the pressure.

Temwanani Nkana

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Hi bro. Can you please make a video on whether front and rear wheels should have the same or different pressures. And if there are differences , whats the rule of thumb between front wheel drive cars and rear wheel drive cars????

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review cars and get paid from the manufactures. thats the youtube way.

Thinking back to my very first, a 1976 Honda Civic CVCC, front wheel drive has always seemed a compromise between efficient/cheap packaging versus stable handling. But don't fret -- in 5-7 years we're going to see four 50kW motors (one per wheel) driving our 2800 lb 2 seater electric, from a 100kWh battery. That's Porsche Cayman territory!

My mini JCW was the best driving experience I ever had

I have a Toyota Celica ZR Manual, revs to almost 9000. LSD, great fun around corners

You didn't really address the question in the title. It was more of an infomercial about the car.

no, they're not

My wife has a whopping 211hp. Anything above 3/4 throttle and that front 225/50/17 Michelin pilot sport spins like there is no tomorrow. I had the same issue with my Geo Storm GSI and Nissan Sentra SE in years past. My AWD now only gets a quick chirp with 550. I'll have to say no to FWD sports cars.

I have noticed my 2020 RAV4 has "some" aggressive feel to it, and yes, I know it's a mini SUV with skinny tires for economy and an 8 speed automatic transmission, NOT a Tremec 6 speed manual performance transmission.

Not this, but Civic type r yes.

Take a shot every time he says 'you know'. No, I don't know, so please tell me! ;)

I hate this guy. He talks way too fast and includes way too much information. I end up learning more than I can process... I'm going to smoke some weed and take a nap, peace

Locking differential cases oversteer - it makes you faster on take off but you loose speed in fast corners. It’s not a solution. If you need cheap sport car buy Nissan 370z. Don’t waste money on this front wheel drive toy.

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Does my Maxima count? It has a bit over 300 horsepower and can accelerate reasonably fast. Where is the cut off line at?

FWD reduces weight when your stepping on the gas cuz of the 2 front wheels spinning it drags the weight of the back of the car but RWD its the back 2 wheels spinning and all of the weight is in the back so the tires has to push forward the other good thing is FWD Improves Fuel Economy & Traction since the Transmission also the weight of the Engine is above over the front two wheels

4 wheel drive like road rally .

It might be fun now that it is new but the bang for the buck disappears when things start breaking.

Hyundai: it’s hard selling FWD sporty cars to Americans 🙁 Jason: Hold my marker.

I'm always impressed by what manufacturers have done in the affordable car market with front-wheel drive. If you look at the top offerings in the sport segment from Honda, Mazda, and now Hyundai, great strides have been made on the engineering side of things. In the late '80s, Dodge campaigned two Dodge Daytonas in IMSA GTU (under 3.0 liters). The Archer brothers ran the racing program and drove the cars. One car was front-wheel drive (the only one in GTU as far I recall), the other was conventional rear-wheel drive. It was an engineering exercise to learn some things under harsh racing conditions on how to maximize front drive handling, braking, and tire management.

"Are FWD sportscar any good?" I mean we have the likes of Civic type-R, Golf GTI, Yaris GRMN, etc to answer that...

For safety's sake, they should make all FWD and RWD cars with an LSD for when you pull out of junctions in the wet - a big problem in the UK, especially when you pass over a metal drain cover.

Ann Arbor, MI

My Hyundai is falling apart already. Its a 2020

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9:30 his first car was an Acura Integra I think? There are vids of it on this channel.

Had a full bolt on/big turbo Speed3 and loved it. Was split between getting a 5.0 or an N. I ended up getting an N. Have absolutely no complaints about the car. 5.0s are a dime a dozen and I absolutely can't stand the sound of them.

Give me a Civic Type R or Megane RS300 Trophy on a wet Nordschleife and I'm happy.

It's a pity that they don't sell the i30N in North America. It's a much more useful shape than the Veloster.

pretty neat little car but i'll stick to my LNF thank you very much.

Honda Type R: am i nothing to you?

No sunroof???

Lets make it simple Front wheel car engine always pulls Rear wheel drive engine alwayd pushes. Now you decide which one is better.

A Veloster N costs 28.000 euros while a Toyota GT86 costs 29.000 Seems like a RWD hatchback could be possible, if only someone dared to dream...

@EngineeringExplained I've always wanted to ask you this. Electric Cars & Regen related. Why is the passing air over a car at highway speeds, or an electric truck not being utilised? It's how windmills work to generate energy, both old school and renewables! If you had Venturi pipes running through the chassis with little turbines wheels or something? I understand I'm not an Engineer, though... It's at least a way to vastly increase the range in a car. On trucks cruising 500 mile long highways? You're welcome. Nikola Tesla's brother from another mother 💯👊

If it were good, he would have a Veloster N instead of a Miata.

I'll always prefer RWD to FWD because it's more fun and more predictable. What he forgot to mention is that FWD is more dangerous because when you lose grip on the driving wheels, you lose all steering as well. In a RWD car, you get a bit of fish-tailing going on so you never lose steering even though the drive wheels as sliding. It lets you know where you stand. Also, the optimum vehicle setup (for performance) has proven to be RWD with a mid or rear mounted engine. That gives you optimum acceleration and handling and you can't beat it with FWD.

Is the less expensive Veloster Turbo as good as the N when it comes to handling, acceleration, etc.?

any chance you could do a video on liquid pistons HEHC rotary (not Wankel) engine, I'd love to hear your explanation of its benefits drawbacks, its an inside out compression ignition wankel engine, sort of.....

Do you prefer the Hyundai Veloster N to your Mazda Miata?

cool vid. Sorry you did not meet the RenaultSport Megane yet. Laughs in European.

Well now you gotta talk about the Type R

Oil dilution is the main problem for many cars today, not FWD, RWD and AWD

Hey Jason so back in 2011 Toyota released new oil viscosity ratings for old vehicles dating back to the 90s, with many that were rated for 5w-30 oil now updated to be able to take 5w20 or even 0w20 oil, Id just like to know more about the topic since in the corvette video you mentioned you shouldn't go higher in the cold rating and lower than the hot rating. The UZ series engine was speced for 5W30 and now speced for 5W20, while the UR series engine with bigger bearing clearances are speced for 0W20.

I wouldn't push that car in the snow being so low. You get stuck when the car's weight is being carried by the snow instead of the tires.

The problem with having all the weight up front is it will mess up handling.

FWD will always be a compromise. Physics can't be debated.

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Nearly every single car on the planet is a compromise. Having a FR layout is a compromise. Not having AWD is a compromise. Having a stereo and sound deadening is a compromise. Not having a full carbon fiber chassis/body is a compromise. It's like you didn't watch the video. Also, what layout doesn't really matter for the track under about 400HP. Drag racing, sure, you're right.

Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Civic Type R, Integra type R, Hyundai Tiburon, Veloster, Megan RS, Golf GTI...

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Tiburon is not a sport car and neither is a fiesta st. What is a megan rs?

Why rear spoiler on FWD Hyundai lol

You my friend needa work on ya arms

Looks over at SAAB dominating rally back in the day.

Please just give me a nicely powered light weight rear wheel drive. Especially an old-school one say a 240Z. I'll decide how bad I'm driving lol

the brake system is always prefilled not just with limited slip or performance driving.

I once had a 1998 Ford ZX2 with 5spd manual and boy let me tell ya there's no better way to wring the most fun out of a 130hp engine that bolt it to a manual in a 2,450# car. Most fun FWD car I ever owned.

So FWD cars are great in day to day driving, while outperforming rwd in bad weather...

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@Alexey Nichols Exactly. A car should be built to thrive in the worst of conditions so it can live a long life in normal conditions.

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@MrLM002 ohh ive been in slushy conditions already, big difference, but in normal day to day driving fwd did just fine,

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@MrLM002 chevy silverado 2500 diesel, and 2009 mustang gt, all i know is gt struggled to get out of the parking spot i always parked in my civic, had to use the four wheeler to pull him out lol, wrx is just a daily haha, ill never take it offroad, i didnt buy it for speed cuz its not fast at all,

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@Alexey Nichols What pickup do you own? Year, make, model, engine, transmission. What Mustang did your brother have year, engine, transmission? Did they have snow tires on both of them? Did they have any modifications to the vehicles other than stock. if so then what? AWD is the best and worst of both worlds, having most of the positives and negatives of FWD and RWD. Well don't think you're suddenly some amazing rally driver now that you got a WRX. Tons of people think 'I got an AWD Subaru or a lifted 4x4 pickup I can go anywhere or do anything, no need to actually learn how to drive' so they crash and or get stuck. You can't tell the difference between AWD and FWD because you haven't taken both in snowy and or slushy conditions.

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@MrLM002 well a pick up truckis rwd, and i used to have 2013 civic si, also my brother in law had a mustang which sucked with traction, i now have a wrx, kind of best of both worlds...and even when i drive my wrx i cant tell the difference between fwd and awd.. i live in a climate where it doesnt snow much so fwd been really solid,

The best front wheel driver car on the planet Veloster N DCT!!!

Great points. A sports car really just needs to be fun while still being safe , it doesn't have to be a great race car , it just has to be faster than an average family car . Plus fwd tends to be more fuel efficient and as you said, they are a lot safer than rwd cars in bad conditions . I think they're great because they make sports cars more affordable, more people can get into the sport which helps with maintenance of race tracks and developing technologies . I really like what they've done with the brakes , the turbo and the valves too.

The term Sportscar has been watered-down since you can basically make every car into a performance car if you put enough resources into it. Engine up front won't help much either even with all the weight. The tires are just going to be overwhelmed at some point especially if they have to do accelerating and steering at the same time even with a diff.

Did the e-LSD actually hold up on the Ring? Most of these multiplate clutch systems overheat with sustained spirited driving and go into the open diff mode.

Isorta got stuck with a car I normally would never have considered buying, but , here it is...A Ford Focus SVT, 2007. It has good power, handling, and I love having more gears than Ive ever (aside from semi trucks, with 15 fowards), six gears is fun. The tempation to flare, paint, and hot rod is there....I dont know where to start.. It has a Borla exaust, K&N intake, ignition stuff....Now I know why window tint is so popular....At 57 yrs, it feels, uh, ...Silly

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Fwd is loads of fun! I could throw my '91 civic through corners at speeds Porsche owners didn't dare (personal experience)... and my '16 Golf is a blast as well!

With FWD a car goes in every second somewhere between the cars own direction (momentum), and the direction of the front wheels. The only thing to influence the back of the car is the handbrake (and of course its braking). With other words U never can achieve oversteering with a FWD vehicle. And I dont speak here about drifters, or broadsiders. But that means, that your steering is limited, and it can only be effected by the steering wheel, what U have to overturn (because of, and depends on the momentum) to turn the car into a direction U want. Actually the cars back is that wants to go straightforward, and pushes the front out of the corner. Front wheels (with throttle) tries to hold it in. Steering is up against the momentum. With RWD by the way U can get (a little) spinning impulse with throttle, separate the accelerating forces direction from the cars moment and therefore U have a much greater control of your cars turn (when U do it properly). Simply because U have the opportunity, to spin and control the back of the car, that way, that the moment and force sum of the mass centre points the right way in the corner. Steering (with throttle) uses the momentum. Compared to AWD... I dont think I need to explain that case.

More fun than rwd for sure.

FWD cars can't be sportscars... they are just fast econoboxes. Sure they can be very fast but there's no sport associated with driving it. Only RWD and AWD cars can give you options to start playing with the weight of the car and that's when it becomes a sport. I speak from experience, I fell into this fwd trap too for few years, sadly. Driving FDW teaches you close to nothing sporty. The only notable exception are FWD rally cars with a proper handbrake, that at least makes a little bit of sense.

that's a Hyundai..... not a sports car.

Eh, the original mini that won rallies for a decade...

Great review as always. Perhaps the biggest drawback is going up hill or doing a hill climb event in the wet .. 😊 I had the experience of such an event and the car was simply skidding.

We don't get the Veloster N here in Europe but instead we get the i30N. I've owned mine for about three months now and it's such a fun car.

Take a breath big fella! I don't mind "bum draggers". I'm seriously considering swapping out my Mazda ND Miata for an Hyundai i20N (then I come to my senses)

They are good Good for nothing

I absolutely love my Veloster N!! It brings back joy to driving that I'd lost with a dull GTI. The cockpit feel, the road feel, the feedback, the crackles and pops, the hum of the exhaust when accelerating(especially during hard acceleration), and the lower sporty feel!!! The GTI is great at so many things, but it doesn't have the sporty joy you get when driving a Veloster N.

Hi, thx for doing these feature videos. Been a big fan of N cars. Just wondering, you’ve been able to drive the manual and DCT back to back, which one do you prefer? Since I’m not going to the tracks, I would like your inputs on this, thx! Will there be an Elantra N DCT video in the future as well?

Hyundai: some torque steer is a good thing. Cadillac when making the FWD Northstar models: here's a 275-300hp 295-300tq FWD V8 with no torque steer.

Before you ask if something CAN be done, one should start with SHOULD it be done. I'll leave the rest to you...

This video confuses the difference between a sporty car and a sports car. The Veloster may be a sporty car but it is not a sports car.

As the happy owner of a 1995 Mitsubishi FTO V6 Mivec powered sports car, yes they are great, Ive owned her for 19 years now, and dont want anything else, she does 220 kph, thats enough for our roads in NZ.

its not hunday

I love my MK8 FiSt

I have a manual '20 Veloster N and LOVE this car! I should confess that both my wife and I have a silly grin on our faces every single time the engine starts and the pops and crackles appeared, or while cornering hardly on twisty roads - I can't tell you how many times I deliberately picked the route with as many switchbacks as possible just to enjoy driving it a bit more. A friend of mine, who has an '18 Focus RS, has been impressed by this car, too. In fact, the only two features I'm somewhat missing are AWD and heated seats - other than that, I have no complaints, regrets, or qualms whatsoever. I think Hyundai did an amazing job of creating fun and driver-centered car on a budget. P.S. I test-drove Type R and WRX as well, and those are undoubtedly great cars either, but from the appearance and maintenance perspectives, as well as overall cost-to-benefit ratio, Veloster was the best option for me

The smile after that downshift and pull is from a real enthusiast 😄

In short, yes they are very good

Not really a "sports car" but I have a 2010 A3 sportback fwd with the DSG it's a mk6 gti I have Alot of fun in it

Why you didn't mention the most significant downside of FWD: engine positioned in front of the axle leads to understeer?

Kids with their riced out Civics liked that

There is NOTHING sport about fwd

I love mine

What's this car again? And how much does it cost?

Driving i30N on a tight track I noticed that front tires are getting overheated or something. At some point they started screeching even after I let go. Only after one cool down lap it got back to regular grip and no screeching.

can FWD even be considered a car?!!??! like come on............

So it’s a good price against safety

I would say the Nissan 370Z or the Toyota 86 are more fun to drive.

Civic Type R crying in a corner*

Do equal length front driveshafts eliminate torque steer?

They are definitely good and enjoyable but not as exciting as a rwd especially mid engines.

Ask Eric “on the roof” Carlson, who proved FWD SAABs could win rallies over RWD competition. I loved to drive the many FWD hatchbacks that I have owned, including a SAAB900. However my RWD Tesla Model 3 is more sporty and fun than those FWD autos.

I almost want to see the eLSD setup on a car with all wheel drive and all wheel steering, the dynamics of it, especially with the center diff under throttle and braking, could be really interesting. Also imagine someone putting a fartcan on one of these. Hyundai: Ignition timing black magic makes nice sounds. ricers: BRRRRRRRR POPPOP BRRRRR POPPOPPOP Going to be an absolute nightmare once that becomes a thing. I fear the day OEM crackles have fartcan amplification.

Well, you didn't point out one aspect enough: if you don't have a really good LSD driven by really good electronics, like on the actual Honda Civic Type R, the steering will be quite much affected by the acceleration, resulting in barely possible turning when pushing hard on the accelerator. The more you accelerate the stronger the front wheels oppose theirself to the steering function and the stronger the steering wheel wants to realign. Obviously, the more powerful the car is, the more noticeable this effect is (understeering). Normally, above 250 ps, they not only aren't as effective as RWD cars but also inaccurate. Also not mentioned is the problem with the front tyres wearing very much faster than the rear ones (and the impossibility to use wider tyres for the traction axis). Basically, it is possible somehow to make a front wheel driven sports car but it's just some sort of accommodation, and powers above 300 ps are barely usable.

:/ honestly I think this video tries to answer a question that is actually a person to person thing. Personally I've never had fun in FWD cars. I personally really wish we'd get another Naturally aspirated, RWD, budget car that you can daily and is still sporty. And don't say FRS/BRZ/GT86. YOU CAN NOT DAILY THAT! The rear seat in it is a joke. And a poor one at that!

Yea, I just bought a Chevy Metro 3 cyl. I know how fun a FWD sports car can be, ok? 😎

disappointed this channel is making commercials now