I can relate to this with my Mazda Skyactiv-X. 182hp and it feels like driving a mom’s car. Fortunately I love the car

It's the power to weight,

Horsepower us just a noise, torque does the work!! But you gotta have enough horse power!

That Mazda would run nice with a twin turbo V6

2016 Elantra Gt 2.0L n/a 173hp at the crank 2900 pounds manual 6speed its a fun car for a cheap price and has been reliable for me (knocks on wood)

My 125 cc motorcycle can accelerate faster than an SUV with 350 hp! And go around curves faster.

The only things the latest mx-5 lacks is a stiffer suspension!

I get the horsepower concept but Curb Side weight is important to me when driving on rainy freeways in California. Cars that weigh less than 2800 pounds tend to start hydroplaning above 65 mph. My 2005 Caddy STS @4200 Curb Side weight does not at any speed. How about a video on vehicle weight verses Mother Nature’s elements?

I'm going to "care" about horsepower and torque and / or Watts whether you like it or not!!!!!

This man totally forgot about street racing

Thank God someone finally said it.

5000 lbs that is half-a-tone.

Finally someone who looks at horsepower numbers with sound logic and reasoning. For me personally, I like a car that handles well around corners, looks sexy, and has some good pep in its step. That's why I think the new Acura TLX S would be great for me. Mid to high 300s in horsepower (which is plenty) and an awesome SH-AWD system 😁👍.

Would love to know the road you were on in this video, looks like great fun!

I have always admired the Mazda Miata, ever since it first came out. But, at 6’4”, I have never fit in one. I haven’t tried to in ten years...but I needed at lest 1-2 inches more headroom to feel like I could be comfortable. For driving fun, I have had to settle for Mini Coopers or even Ford Focuses (!) and the Scion tC (awesome car!).

Horsepower is overrated, drugs are far more important. lol

Comparing horsepower between fuel powered and electric powered vehicles is ridiculous and pointless.

Make a car made of cardboard and tin, and slap a lawn mower engine in it. :))

The only weights he lifts is paper weights! 😆

I have decided to join Automobile Engineering College to understand this video :))

To sum this video up. Peak hp is nothing. its all about the average output over the time interval you are wanting to test. Hp is everything to move an object. average hp is what you want to maximize at all times

Where’s the charts..... im sooooo lost 😂

when a 9 year old camaro gets compared to a brand new 2019 mazda ^_^

If you care about the power to weight to fun ratio you have 2 too many wheels. I can have twice as much fun on a 50 hp 250 lbs bike than you could have in any 4 wheeler

I have a 75hp 3cylinder 1l litre engine car, and even that is too much for me,

Absolutely right. Especially the Miata is a perfect example! It is more FUN to drive than a Porsche 991.2 TurboS Convertible...from personal experience....even though much lower horsepower ! Mazda really nailed it with the MX5!! Regards from Germany

Everyone should get an Audi A1 1,4 TFSI! Its a Gokart with the heart of a sports car.

you made all the 350Z HR guys cry :)

Honorable mention, late 80s MR2, Suzuki Cappuccino.

You like straight, I like curve. Same way i like my lady.

So Basically...you're yammering about Power:weight ratio! Ummmm... yeah, that was covered by Agera R - Koenigsegg 😄.

If somebody likes crazy bhp to weight ratios, then i recommend the old can am racing prototypes. Of course they where basically engines with wings and wheels. 700 bhp + and less than 1500 lbs.

Watch old RUF documentary. Old guy (owner of RUF) says the only way to make a car better is to make it lighter. It is like having a 20-30 kgs lighter motorbike. It makes a big difference.

Richard Couldn’t agree more. And yet at least two popular YT reviewers insist on opening each and every review with HORSEPOWER plastered in big numbers over each and every review. And they should know better. (Weight?? Oh, at some point they’ll mention it. But make no mistake; it’s HP that gets the spotlight.) 😞

The horsepower race is out of control, especially in an age where there are so many cars on the roads. Horsepower vs weight and the most bang you can get talking HP/Weight is a modern day liter bikes, the likes of the Honda CBR1000-RR, Kawasaki H2 or the BMW 1000-RR and they cost far less than any car that can close to the speed those bikes can quickly attain.

Wait, you’re sitting there and driving along and you want me to make the spreadsheet when you usually do the wetboard excuse me whiteboard.?

I loved my Saturn Sky that at 3000 pounds and 320 horsepower with a mild tune on the stock motor, was traction limited in the first 3 gears. It did not need anymore horsepower or torque.

coming from the words of a guy in a miata ill still take your word tho

I always agreed with what you say, but you said there was no lighter or more fun car than the mx5. You forgot that 60 hp 1.1 Citroën saxo. Might be French, but is a perfect daily 🥰

Sometimes it's good to go to a gym to have lean muscles for you to be able to work with heavy things like fixing a car...

Beautiful scenic drive next to a river. Where is it ?

It's hilarious that the C8 Corvette weighs as much as my 1983 Chevy Impala, when the Corvette is made of aluminum and plastic 😂

Greetings from Germany 😏😁

Me and my motorcycle think all these 5sec 0-60 times are damn slow.

"I want to have fun in a car!" Makes a spreadsheet.

My bike makes only 160 horsepower, but it weighs 500 pounds. Check mate, every car guy.

Cries in 150 crank hp and 4100lbs

This guy talks awfully fast. First he says weight doesn't matter. Then he says it matters a whole lot. Why do they put stuff like this out?

3:53 "..true constraints like..life.." That's really hits something and brings me back to reality lol

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but did he mean living or just living with the massive consequences of losing your license/car/sums of money etc lol

Spends 13 minutes saying horsepower doesn't matter. Then says "I like the ND because it has more horsepower." :D

Used to have a 3L V6 TDI, the low end torque gives a kick, but it won't last long because of 5K red line. lol Now I have an AMG 4L bi-turbo V8, much better.

I agree

Travelling at 100mph in a 2ton car your first thought is how it's going to stop. Forget the HP.

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Brembo Brakes .

1KW=1.341HP

I bet a hybrid turbo civic could be really fast. Vtec and turbo on the high end, electric motor off the line; that would be an insane sleeper

Weight matters indeed! I've got 1987 bmw e30 and I'm building m20 2.7 L stroker engine which will produce about 200hp on crank and it's 1150 kg (2535 lbs). It has 5 speed Getrag manual and don't know what final drive do I want/need. I want this car to be fun to drive and not too crazy on RPM when on highway

Thats why off road vehicles need to have more torque than hp

Is like Bruce Lee vs Arnold Schwarzenegger. Who you think will win?

BTW .... pretty good driving skills to have such an indepth conversation with facts and figures and ..... keep that car on the road ... and on your side of the road.

Well damn. I'm not a car nut. Where do I want my power delivered. It's in the 40 - 60 mph range. I want to be able to pass some slow putz like a rocket going off. I want to step on the gas and be past the putz in 3 seconds.

Weight is also a reason why EVs are not fun to drive on dynamic roads.

His driving on that road with only one hand on the wheel is making me nervous. Those rocks would not keep you from going down that cliff.

Thanks for putting words on why the freaking fabia feels better than the s60.

also it will be mandatory to be lightweight for environmental reasons in a few years.

A very clear and logical argument is made here.

An MX-5 is as quick as a Harley, which is to say...not very 🤣

Precies 😉

If you watch Ford vs Ferrari it shows how the winning cars were important in car sales of their brand of car.

What's so important about acceleration? One can can go 50' further in the same time as another. At 60mph one second equals 88 feet. So that's about one second of distance. More hp generally consumes more fuel. For what?

Aerodynamics are important

The best car I ever had was a 1991 SW20 Toyota MR2, with the base engine, 130 HP, 140 lb ft torque Never felt underpowered. Was quick, punchy, when I needed it, smooth, and reliable

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Finally someone mentioned MR2

Beautiful road

You just explained why 2 strokes are more fun than 4 strokes

Agreed, but the rich guys don't care, they always brag about how much power they have under their hoods, which make the perfect cases of "I drive a McLaren." at track events, those damn fools. haha

"I don't lift weight that high in weight value" He's got the gym lingo down at least.

Wise words - and that's why I love my Swift Sport :)

The same mentality is found in home theater systems with amplifiers having high watt output when really the sound pressure level (SPL) of the drivers in the speakers make a bigger difference. They are the measure of how well the drivers convert electrical energy to mechanical energy, moving the cone in the spider, pushing the soundwaves to your ear.

This is right out of Gordon Murray's philosophy. And why, in spite of being very wealthy, he drives an Alpine A110 every day.

In the offroad world we have a saying. Anything over 14hp is just wheel spin.

Reason one, you are poor🥺.

V6 AWD Dodge Challenger? I used to sell Challenger's. Never heard of sucha animal.

I get what he's saying, but his MX-5 would be whole lot more fun with a 450hp LS, by far.

A dude that drives a Miata makes a vid about not caring about HP. Hilarious. - Sincerely, Focus RS owner

Doesn't having a heavy car also increase traction, helping with acceleration from a stop?

what about the lotus Elise , it weights less and it has more power!

Where are you driving in the video? The landscape is absolutely beautiful and breathtaking

Try high intensity interval training.😁

I really wish there was an EV equivalent to this. Affordable, convertible, with instant silent torque, decent acceleration, and good handling.

...ssssooooo... it's exciting to have a jerk

A Hellcat is a riot! And it breaks every rule. It’s great because it’s absurd.

"I rather relief 50 kilograms in the car than get 50 more hp" - Emerson Fittipaldi

Price tho

He obviously lacks body weight 🏋️

Bruh what?????? Weight has very little role in top speed????? Question mark x1,000,000

Of course you should care about horsepower... anything over 500hp is way too much for the average person.

Ye, the horsepower are overrated, A 1989 Mini Rover 1000 sport got 56hp and it's so funny to drive and you have not the impression to be slow

Try motorcycles.

I really enjoy an engine winding up to get to that peak power. It is why I do not like turbos. Comparing to EVs is b.s. yes they will always outrun you at the traffic lights, annoying but true.

My wife's 2017 Kia Rondo has a 2 litre, kicks you into the seats and likes to cruise at around 145 km, I've only had it up to 160 km but she had I'd guess another 25 km in her easy.

But im 6 foot 3 and cant fit my fat rear in a miata 😥